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Has a cop ever stopped you and claimed you matched the description for an armed suspect, so they need to pat you down?
These types of stops are known as Terry Stops, where a cop has reasonable suspicion that someone may be committing a crime. Police have a reasonable suspicion that their safety could be at risk, as well as the public. Usually, if there is a reason a police officer does think you could be an armed and dangerous suspect, they are within the law of doing a stop and search.
HOWEVER, if it’s proven a cop is lying about looking for an armed suspect, a citizen could bring that to court and get whatever the officer found (if anything) thrown out. Also, if the suspected broken law is something like a DWI or indecent exposure, it is likely unreasonable for them to search your person for a weapon, unless you are getting arrested.
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The crazy part is they think it's acceptable to consider all of the public as a risk to their safety yet get upset whenever we assume they are all gestapo.
The problem is that no matter the description, someone, somewhere will "match." And vice versa, I can give a random description and somewhere there's a crime with that description.
The nature of the crime will obviously influence a search but a Terry frisk is very specific in its wording and misused by EVERY office I have ever seen irl and auditor videos. An officer has the ability to frisk the outside clothing of a suspect who has been detained IF AND ONLY IF the officer has reasonable suspicion that the suspect has a weapon. ie. a bulge in his pants, the glimpse of the handle on his waistline, and it could go on and on which is more to the point that they could just make up shit they said they saw in your pockets but they don't because they only interpret the law in their favor to mean they can frisk anybody anytime for no reason.
With a DUI the suspect, if intoxicated is already having problems with disinhabition and can become suddenly impulsive. While he's in control he might be cooperative and reasonable but with the added stress of the situation could become momentarily desperate. I think that suspicion of DUI could be a reasonable condition for a pat down.
I think something like shoplifting is case by case.
I've seen videos of shoplifters very willing to turn a petty misdemeanor into a felony which I'm reasonably sure is a tiny minority of the time but shoplifters who are trying to find money for drugs can get crazy stupid.
Coward cops use officer safety to violate rights.
If the cop actually felt unsafe he wouldnt have left his vehicle.
Obviously we can remain silent. Are we allowed to say random stuff? For example let's say a cop is questioning me.
Am I allowed to sing Barbie Girl?
Yeah getting pulled over in California just for walking on side walk in my pajamas getting some ingredients for breakfast officer claimed i looked like someone there looking for i told them bull shit and walked back into my apartment ignoring them
Can you check that you do look like the suspect
Whats the statute for officer safety?
They don’t use reason 😂
I was talking with a retired cop last week about “reasonable” people. He said “reasonable” actions are determined by the department, not the individual cop, and different departments use different criteria.
What about our safety from them
Clearly this lawyer, who never had to confront an armed or angry person, has a different view of officer safety than the officers who do it every day. He would shit his pants.
Here's the catch: "Reasonable" is on the eye of the beholder.
Yeah, got pulled over and held at gunpoint because I “matched the description” of an armed robbery that had just taken place.,,,,,,,,, but then cops are allowed to lie right?
Why is the safety only of those wearing badges of any concern? Do people who don't wear badges get to have safety? Asking for a friend.
Patdown search for weapons? The cops fully surrounded my vehicle with guns drawn because I was a "white male wearing blue jeans driving a gray or silver vehicle," the absurdly general description of a person who had apparently robbed a gas station elsewhere in the city, and I was "driving too carefully." They then searched my vehicle with no warrant and no consent. Stupid. Never assume that cops will know or respect your rights. They do not care.
What if it's an acorn
Cops will do whatever they want and unless you can afford a lawyer then you can’t do jack
What if you're just breathing?
Cops use the officer safety excuse to try to get a rise out of a suspect, hoping they'll get to draw on, and actually shoot the suspect. Cops would rather kill you and let their thin blue line gang members get them off the hook, than go through the trouble of actually doing their job. Since body cam footage is so often lost, or accidentally deleted in the case of an officer involved shooting, and there's no living suspect to contradict what the officer puts in his report, who's to say the officer is lying or not.
Can cops make you get out of your vehicle and reach in your pocket for a traffic stop