Live: KAREN READ TRIAL~Court resumes on Day 33~Jury wants to go home…What’s goin’ on?

35 thoughts on “Live: KAREN READ TRIAL~Court resumes on Day 33~Jury wants to go home…What’s goin’ on?”

1. a juror got spooked by the Alberts and McCabe on closing. Any reasonable person would have definate reasonable doubt. Someone is scared….

2. Saturday?

3. Why were the MCalberts allowed to go in the court room during final closing? It was OK for them to see the jury?

4. Theres pictures floating around from the vfw!

5. So the jury can just decide we want to go home????

6. If Karen was sitting right there how did she not know that Higgins was beefing with John?

7. Judge took the bench. Hourly is deadlocked

8. Kyra Sedgwick as Karen

9. I will say this, her statements ON TAPE boxed in her Defense team strategy. They had to accept that John O'Keefe's death was AT THE HANDS of someone. They could not argue it may have been an accident that happened after she left. They had to go with her narrative. That has now essentially made the jury decide not on the "Beyond a reasonable doubt" standard that they should use but rather a binary decision of who did it, Karen or cops.

   Since we did not get a 12 vote not guilty on the first full day of deliberation, I expect it will be a hung jury. Why? Because the Defense Team worked VERY hard over 4 days of jury selection. They knew that is where they needed to put the work in. They needed to find people that could believe, Lally's description not mine, fanciful theories of how the crime was committed. They needed people that would be angry at one individual enough to let a guilty person go free (it is called the Furman effect, for Mark Furman the LA detective that the defense team was able to convince a jury planted evidence in the OJ Simpson trial). They needed to find people that don't trust or maybe even hate law enforcement and the government. I think they have at least a few defense friendly jurors in the jury box. It was their job. They did it well. The problem for me is two fold: no justice for John and his family and the "in real time" viewing of our country turning into something that scares me a lot, many people willing to believe that a huge conspiracy occurred to convict a woman that was innocent instead of the more likely possibility that while drunk, she hit her boyfriend with her car and left him to freeze in the snow.

   This goes into something much deeper regarding social media today and how intelligent people can be manipulated into believing something that should not be believable in a normal society.

10. Doxing witnesses is awful 😞

11. There are one or more hold outs on the jury. This is not good. It's looking more like a hung jury the longer they are out, which is hard to understand based on the amount of doubt shown during the trial.

12. Did the police silence the crowd from shouting encouragement to the KR Team?

13. ~42 minutes into Brian Albert’s full testimony from CBS Boston: Lally asked him about the gate to the woods in the back of the property where the railroad track is. Why? Was he suggesting that John’s body could have been moved out the back and left there instead of out the front gate by the flagpole, the way the defense suggested? Both of these notions are wrong, in my opinion. Nobody talks about the third gate, next to the garage and driveway, where the Ford Edge was parked. It exists. I can see it on Zillow. I can see the hinges and the latch. There is a gate right at the top of the drive where I believe John vanished to pee when the dog was in the backyard. Nobody showed that third gate in pictures in court, and nobody talked about it. They didn’t want the jury to know it’s there.
    
    Nobody dragged a 200+ lb man across great expanses of yard. John was extremely intoxicated, 0.23% alcohol in vitreous fluid. I think he slipped on pool cement and cracked his head right behind that gate by the garage. I think he was found dead, and somebody put him in the Ford Edge and drove him to the property line at about 3:30 am to make it look like a plow accident. Leaving his body in the woods behind their property would have launched a huge investigation they didn’t want. Why is Lally asking Albert about the train schedules and the noise? Does he think John was yelling for help outside and the train drowned out the sound? If you need train schedules, maybe don’t ask the homeowner.

    41:17 Lally: What abuts the back of the property?
    
    BA: Behind the back fence, there’s a railroad track, I believe it’s a commuter rail, behind the fence
    
    Lally: Is there any way to open the back of the fence to get to any wooded area?
    
    BA: Yes there’s a gate back there…..
    
    Lally: You mentioned the train tracks … how often do trains go by on Fairview Rd?
    
    BA: depends, 5-6 times a day
    
    Lally: how loud is it?

    Among other things, Brian Albert says the dog was outside for 2-3 minutes, then in the kitchen for a few minutes, then went upstairs and never went out again that night. It is not clear exactly when he let Chloe outside. He said “At some point”. It’s possible that Chloe found John already on the ground at 12:24 am or 12:32 am and tried to rouse him. It’s also possible that Chloe attacked who she perceived to be an intruder in her yard at 12:22 am and that she caused John’s fall or falls.

    Brian Albert said he took Brian Higgins upstairs for a few minutes to show Higgins photos and plaques in his son Jack’s room. He said Higgins left the party first at around 1:30 am and that he never saw where Higgins was parked. As I recall, Higgins testified he didn’t go upstairs or downstairs. Going up and down steps after the dog was out may be the elevation change registered on John’s phone. John’s phone could have been moving at 12:32 am, not John himself. It’s possible that one or two of them were able to hide what happened in the backyard from most of the people who were there. I doubt anyone hurt John on purpose, but it’s possible. They moved his body because they didn’t want an investigation. If they truly found him and his phone at 12:32 am, it is very odd they were confident he was dead and didn’t call 911.

14. That woman you are referring to who was disrespectful on CourtTV is not what would be considered a real FBI agent. She misrepresents she worked in some sideline FDA category of no importance and relevance. She lies literally lies or gives the wrong impression regarding her employment with the FBI.

15. If Officer J O had been taken to hospital he may had lived

16. 👀Feds are watching!👀

17. oh you must see Cop Land movie is very good and so many similarities with this case in Canton

18. If the jurors wanted to go home at 1 p.m., she'd let them ? This is not how you run a court? I've never seen any judge allow this ?

19. Garrett’s channel is amazing and very informative. Thank you for telling us about his channel. I normally don’t comment much, some people should not comment on things they know nothing about ( Melanie I’m not talking about you, I think you
    know who I’m talking
    about). Thank you for all you do.

20. According to Boston 25 reporting in February 2024 Morrissey requested to have the trial moved out of Massachusetts

21. The McAlberts only need one

22. Ms Luttle says something to Karen and rubs her back. I think they have a verdict but only for today.

23. I’m a 67 year kinda wise woman…. Thank you for your wisdom… From which we drink from the cup of truth

24. I always get nervous that being deadlocked leads to a compromised verdict. If that is the case, I hope those holding out for a NG don't give in to get a verdict. I know people bring up other cases that took days for a verdict, but this case should be obvious. If he was not hit by her car, then they can't convict on any of the charges. So frustrating!

25. You’re a class act. JC is NOT!

26. Even unanimously voting Not Guilty, they must be fascinated with examining the absurd & bogus "evidence" submitted by the CW – I know I'd wamna see it all with my own eyes up close & we'd criticize it together!

27. The expert testing was done & report was written many months ago, when he'd never heard of Karen Read or the case. That means it wasn't biased.

    After the report was submitted to the DOJ, any interest he or his wife may have taken in the case did NOT affect the testing or the report.

28. 😯 Wait…If John FLEW 30FT on impact & landed @ flag pole, 12 ft from the road, the collision site would've been ≈ 18ft down the street in front of the wrong house! 🤔 Why would he have gotten out there?

29. It's totally ok if the jury doesn't "buy the conspiracy." The defense doesn't need an explanation as to why Karen's Not Guilty. The Not Guilty plea alone is all they need to submit. Karen is presumed innocent until proven otherwise. So, if there was no cover-up or conspiracy, she's still innocent until proven guilty.

    We have factual scientific evidence proving Karen's vehicle never hit John, and that's enough to acquit her – even without a satisfactory alternate theory about who k***ed him.

30. 😯 Wait…If he FLEW 30FT on impact & landed @ flag pole, the collision site would've been 30FT down the street in front of the wrong house! 🤔

31. the jury is probably like WTF did we just watch.

32. Someone needs to post that footage again….I remember seeing Coffindafer creeping. Her tweet was disgusting

33. Karen’s biggest fan!

34. ❤

35. At least the jury is giving this case the time and consideration that LE didn't give OJO.

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