LIVE: Day 5 Closing Arguments MI v. James Crumbley, School Shooter Dad Trial | COURT TV

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   TRIAL NOTES:
   00:00:00 Introduction
   00:18:59 Defendant James Crumbley Enters Court
   00:30:33 ALL RISE! Jury enters the court – MI v. James Crumbley
   00:31:57 RECALL STATE’S WITNESS #9 Special Agent Brett Brandon, ATF
   00:35:32 STATE RESTS
   00:37:19 #DEFENSE’S WITNESS #1 Karen Crumbley, Defendant’s Sister
   01:03:54 Judge Speaks to Defendant about testifying
   01:06:57 RECESS Lunch Break
   03:42:26 Defense Rests – Defendant Enters Court
   03:47:22 ALL RISE for the Jury!
   03:48:14 Karen McDonald – State’s Closing Arguments
   04:50:37 Mariell Lehman – Defense’s Closing Arguments
   05:35:42 Karen McDonald – State’s Rebuttal
   05:52:40 Judge Matthews reads jury instructions
   06:20:40 Jury Leaves for Deliberations
   06:28:09 Defendant James Crumley returns to custody
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2. This mumbling judge…🤷

3. Great closing by the prosecutor. So many unreasonable statements by the defense…and I'm paraphrasing…"Ethan didn't know where the dad hid the gun"…well obviously he did know. "The teacher looked at Ethan and couldn't believe it was him because he was such a sweet kid." They say that about all sorts of killers when they interview their neighbors. Bottom line, he didn't lock up the guns like he OBVIOUSLY should have…especially if he knew the kid was "begging for the gun". Guilty.

4. Blonde def attorney is hot…🥵

5. Who buys hollow points to target practice? No one ever. This man is guilty as sin. These people are so self involved they can’t stand themselves. Hobbies aka horses and buying guns – alcohol and drugs. Just couldn’t be bothered that their child was depressed and on a murdering path. They all deserve life. Also notice that Eathan was the only one to man up and say I take responsibility.

6. yikes. the prosecution got back up after defenses closing statements to whine like a baby. "i dont have to prove this to you!!!!!!! witnesses arent evidence!!! 👺 yOu dID nOT hEAR they werent concerned!!" literally stop. stop stomping your feet like a grown baby and let the jury do their job

7. a lot of teenagers have access to firearms and have depression – doesnt mean theyre ALL going to do what Ethan did.

8. C'mon, this father his wife were Black there'd be no persecution. Propaganda; Parents, prosecutors, on a witch hunt. One shooter, one murderer, he's in prison. Every neglectful parent was penalized, they'd all be in prison! Millions of Blacks, Muslims, Hispanics, run amok highest crime rates in history; Repeat offenders, no bail or punishment. Pack jails, prisons, their parents belong in prison! BLM caused $Billions in property damage; Loot, rob, burn, attack, maim, kill, possess tens of millions of illegal guns! NYC ATTACK COPS DAILY. Shame on The Court! A mockery; Prosecution, Jurors, are wrong.

9. James Crumbley mustve been deaf dumb and blind not to know his son was hoimcidal

10. I believe prosecutor provided enough evidence to prove "reasonably foreseeable." I'd be surprised if found not guilty.

11. A gun safe, with a combination more complicated than 000, would have prevented this sociopath from shooting up the school. I know several people who are responsible gun owners who keep their guns in locked heavy safes. This man is an accessory to a mass murder, while ignoring severe problems of his son. Guilty as charged.

12. No text messages to either parent saying help me!!

13. I have two teens that refuse to talk to me about anything. This is wrong representation

14. These prosecutors and lead sheriff should be ashamed. They’re playing off emotion not fact.

15. The only thing the defense did, was confirm that the parents were remiss in several areas. GUILTY. Why? It's the adults responsibility to LOCK UP WEAPONS. This family was self serving in general.

16. The defense gave a compelling closing. I have several reasonable doubts myself. IMO, the prosecution has a weak case, and so they made it all about a cable lock. But that's not the issue. The issue is gross negligence, namely, foreseeing that he would hurt someone and not acting appropriately. Even school officials who knew him were in disbelief that it was him.

    The journal? I believe the word of the parents over the rants of a killer. It's no secret that Ethan refused to testify, which means his texts and writings about him having mental issues were never verified as truth.

17. Listening to closing arguments makes me sick as a teacher. We ARE trained for active shooters. Like it is an any/everday possibility….

18. Guilty no doubt. So sad 5 lives were lost bc of these parents. The 4 school kids, and their son who was literally screaming for help. So gd sad.

19. NOT GUILTY!!!!

20. As a Republican and proud NRA member, I can hardly wait for Permanent President Trump to pardon St Ethan Crumbley and his PATRIOTIC PARENTS from these politically provoked prosecutions!

21. Why was there a side bar when the prosecutor began questioning James Crumbley’s sister?

22. Mom was colder than dad was, but dad bought the gun and didn’t secure it, so although he is more likable than mom he is more culpable.

23. It will be rather odd if the jury finds him not guilty, when another jury found Jennifer guilty. I'm anxiously awaiting their verdict; hopefully it will come in tomorrow.

24. What’s going on? Are they coming in soon?

25. Guilty

26. After the John Hopkins in the Maya trail can we just agree to kick every Hopkins out of this country 🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤣 I'm just sayin the Hopkins guy in this case was pretty bad too he didn't protect the kids or attempt to actually help Ethan either 💯😔

27. I’d be surprised if he was found not guilty but his wife was

28. Oh now i can't hear… Can I get some blinders for my eyes too? 🤣🤣

29. Parents need to pay attention to what their kids are doing

30. The prosecutor closed very effectively with that demonstration of the gun cable lock.
    It took 10 seconds to install the lock & make the gun inoperable. With 10 seconds of effort, James Crumbley could've prevented this horrific crime.

    The demonstration really emphasized the absolute negligence on the part of this father.

31. Hindsight is always 20/20. At the time, this was unforeseeable and unthinkable for all those around him.

    People aren't perfect. It's easy to look back and say "what if" about the parents and the school. Both acted reasonably at that time in those circumstances. Nobody is at fault but the shooter himself.

32. Aww poor teachers gotta do something no phones no computer lets see if u can teach old style and parents that aren't even home with kids but buye all they need common sence hummmm

33. They say they ran because they were being threatened.
    They ran because they Knew, that they were guilty!

34. Kinda hope he's found not guilty.

35. Are the ppl on the school next to go on trial?????

36. Common sence lol kids obly know their way on a phone or computer common sense shhhh lol good luck parents dont even have it but material things

37. At least he did call 911 school did what? With a cop on campus wow oxford

38. Is this live

39. School failed as parents did and bo a days good luck with ur privileges kiddos since parents pay for all when under their house so yes all guilty

40. Cable or no cable on the gun, this was unforeseeable and unthinkable. The son had to sneak into the parents room, search and find the gun and ammo, and steal them to commit the crime.

41. "dad, voices I my head are telling me to shoot up the school…. Blood everywhere…. Take me to a doctor"

    "Suck it up, son, here have some (?)…. Here's a gun… Merry Christmas, ya filthy animal"

42. I will say this If your going to hold this couple responsible for their son's actions, then Latino and black parents must be also for their kids and grandkids who carry guns and kill people and rob them as they know they're kids carry guns and live with them.

43. I gotta say, the defense has done her best. As a past juror I couldn't take the behavior of Mrs. Crumbly's atty. This one speaks loudly but gets her points across well.

44. I believe the school failed these children this day this child should not have been allowed on the campus the drawings etc.

45. Guilty, no doubt. Both parents disregarded all the signs of their son!! Look at what it is costing them!!

46. How do we know it isn’t just a question the jury has?

47. No way

48. I'm having a hard time putting any blame on the school , how much more are we going to put on these teachers to sooth our guilt . They are EDUCATORS , sure it's a horror what happened if they could go back and do something that doesn't detract from the fact they did call in the parents , THE PARENTS , it is their job to do the right thing not the school's . God when are we going to open up our eyes and see the real issue here , guns should never be in the hands of children period .

49. School is SOOO RESPONSIBLE ALSO IF PARENTS GO DOWN THEY SHOULD TOO BO ONE CHECKED 5HE BAG AT MEETING HES A MENTAL ABUSED HUSBAND AND KID WIFE WELL SHE IS 100 JUST LIKE SCHOOL IS

50. It is my understanding that Ethan, oops, "the shooter", was certified to stand trial as an adult. If that is the case, shouldn't the parents' defense be, Ethan is an adult as determined by the court, therefore, they have no culpability and no responsibility for Ethan's actions?

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