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Israel’s legal defence off to weak start

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Israel’s legal defence off to weak start


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Al Jazeera’s senior political analyst Marwan Bishara says Israel’s legal team started off weak but made a few strong points near the end.

Bishara said the lawyers’ efforts to deflect blame for Israel’s attacks and ignore the context of Israel’s 75-year occupation of Palestine came across as “illogical”.

Their claims that Israel’s forces are trying to protect, rather than harm, civilians were also unconvincing given the toll of the war: 23,357 Palestinians, including 9,600 children, since October 7.

However, Bishara said Israel’s lawyers did well to zero in on the jurisdiction of the ICJ – pointing out that the court must specifically prove Israel is guilty of genocidal intent, not any other violations.

“You can claim Israel has committed heinous crimes, but if they do not fall under the framework of genocide, the court has no jurisdiction,” Bishara said.

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48 thoughts on “Israel’s legal defence off to weak start”

  1. ICJ acts like they are blind or what? This accusation needs no need for a court hearing, we have watched evidence in all mainstream and minor media on what's going on in Gaza
    Is the world blind or what?
    There is more than enough evidence available out there to prove that Isreal committed genocide
    Come on people, thousands of evidence are there
    This court hearing is just a waste of time. 23000 children and innocents have been murdered and by the time this court hearing is over, there will be 46,000 as my assumptions
    Come on people

  2. There are 15 countries supporting South Africa in its case of genocide of Palestinians at the ICJ. Obviously SA is not alone and zionists Israel must realise it.

  3. This day, I am extremely proud to be a South African. We are carrying the torch of Nelson Mandela, and honouring his legacy exactly as he would have us do.

  4. The court will eventually present a verdict. As the verdict must be based upon evidence and not emotions many will be disappointed with both the verdict and its limited impact on the war. The Palestinian deaths will only end when Hamas and its leadership are history.

  5. Genocide by definition, is the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race.
    Israel has not committed genocide.
    It is acting both in self defence and in response to the murder of its innocent civilians.
    On the other hand, Hamas has and is committing genocide.
    It’s in its founding charter. Go read it.
    Hamas and other terror organizations reject all attempts at peace in favor of Jihad.
    Trying to expand the meaning of genocide to encompass unequal casualties in war is absurd.
    It would make every nation that has won a war into a nation of “war criminals".

  6. Happy is the man who listens to me,
    watching day by day at my door,
    keeping watch over the gates of my gates.

  7. Its not a genoce. Proof? Israel could have killed all the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip if they wanted to. But they don't.

  8. Even the two strong points are well very strong 💪.

    1. The need to discuss with Israel 🇮🇱.

    What about the need to discuss with Palestine 🇵🇸?

    Does America 🇺🇸 need discussing with too? Or Iran 🇮🇷?

    Nebulous at best.

    2. Genocide. What is genocide? Can’t define genocide?

    We all have the internet. Even Google with a few clicks can give us standards with regards to current murky laws wherever they reside 🤣.

    Nice Try. A for effort if nothing else.

  9. Solidarity with those who stand against terrorism and lies.

    Though, South Africa just allowed Isreal to prove to the world that the propaganda against Isreal is false.

    Anyone who listened to both sides fully, would agree that South Africa had no evidence and every accusation they made, Isreal responded with evidence that proves it wrong.

    So if we didn't know SA was against Isreal, we would think they were supporting them, after all, it's now evident SA claims were in fact baseless.

    Any of you people here commenting that SA proved their case clearly didn't pay attention. They made accusations and provided no evidence (aside from partial evidence) which allowed Isreal to present actual evidence proving the truth.

    Regardless of who you "support", nobody can deny the truth now. Everyone should stop believing the propaganda Hamas is pushing.

  10. —-:::——-

    “They [think to] deceive Allah and those who believe, but they deceive not except themselves and perceive [it] not.

    In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.

    And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers."

    Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.

    And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not.

    And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We believe"; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, "Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers."

    [But] Allah mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression [while] they wander blindly.

    Those are the ones who have purchased error [in exchange] for guidance, so their transaction has brought no profit, nor were they guided.

    Their example is that of one who kindled a fire, but when it illuminated what was around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness [so] they could not see.

    Deaf, dumb and blind – so they will not return [to the right path].” (Quran 2:9-18)

    “And never think that Allah is unaware of what the wrongdoers do. He only delays them for a Day when eyes will stare [in horror].”{Quran 14:42}

    “But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners.”(Quran 8:30)

    Allah's plans always prevail in perfect timings and quantity over the man's planning. One should realize that there won't be any storm that Allah won't carry His man through. But for that one's faith needs to be greater than his fear.

    Gazauschwitz/Nakba 1948
    Truth🇵🇸✊🏻🇮🇪Justice
    Nakba 2023/GazaHolocaust

    —-:::——

  11. Israel doesn't have any defence against the charges raised. Whatever they're doing is just merely foolish the whole world.

  12. Mr. Marwan Bishara, thank you so much for the great analysis. So as Al Jazeera correspondence's excellencies. ❤❤❤❤❤

  13. Thank you South Africa for being a proud defender of humanity and human rights for Palestinians! ❤️ 🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸

  14. South Africa leave Israel 🇮🇱 alone because you failed to condemn Russia for invading Ukraine 🇺🇦 don't act as if you are better while your own South Africans are struggling fix your country first.

  15. I though South Africa made an extremely strong case yesterday linking the genocidal rhetoric from Israeli leadership all the way to the action of the troops on the ground, reflecting that they were following the rhetoric and felt fully aligned with it. I am surprised to see Mr. Bishara saying that this was one of the strongest points of defence.
    Similarly, SA has formally warned Israel it was carrying out genocide at the USNC, UNGA and through downgrading diplomatic channels – it seems clear there is a dispute. Israel is trying to imply that SA has no right to bring a case when it is Gazas and Palestinians being affected, but in fact all states party to the genocide convention have not just the right, but the obligation to do this – including Israel having the obligation to stop itself from committing genocide. Then again, Israel is signatory to a lot of conventions that it completely ignores…

  16. So Israeli leaders can say genocidal things, and it is just talk, they don't mean it, but if the guy on the street says "r/ver 2 the se@" he will be accused of genocidal.intent. It is not a profound argument Israel makes, it is hypocrisy.

  17. This guy has lied so long, and promoted evil so long he probably now believes all his lies. Iran must be so proud.

  18. The fact is as with the war in Ukraine, the world can see EVIDENTLY its 1 rule for WHITE lives and another for everyone else. This Palistian and Israle war is a different cake altogether. The Palistaioans if they had been smart should have negoatiated a withdraw from said lands to another country years ago. A country is not home its a place but anywhere can be home. Had they done this they would of been in peace now. They stand a better chance lobbing the UN to force the UK to take them given this was all started under the British Empire and now Israel has taken over it should fall squarely on the UK to take the palistains inn as they did with the Indians of Uganda when they were expelled.

  19. See how old this matter is :

    Bertrand Russell’s last message
    (March 15, 1970) AS IF HE WROTE IT TODAY.
    “The development of the crisis in the Middle East is both dangerous and instructive. For over seven decades Israel has expanded by force of arms. After every stage in this expansion Israel has appealed to ‘reason’ and has suggested ‘negotiations’. This is the traditional role of the imperial power, because it wishes to consolidate with the least difficulty what it has taken already by violence. Every new conquest becomes the new basis of the proposed negotiation from strength, which ignores the injustice of the previous aggression.The aggression committed by Israel must be condemned, not only because no state has the right to annex foreign territory, but because every expansion is also an experiment to discover how much more aggression the world will tolerate.”

  20. this is a century old matter, yet israel that is turned to azrael over this given time to appear in this so called court and defend its genocide , it tells us all, that we have gone too far down the road if corruption. We have lost the way to the humanity , to being human … but the people of the world needs to remember that they are, we are the REAL POWER… we have to take down what we put up there

    – The highest and the last degree of corruption is using laws for oppression and injustice.

    – In the human societies IT IS NOT JUST THE CONSCIOUS EVIL ACTIONS OF ONE MAN THAT LEAD TO DISASTROUS RESULTS, It is also the small cowardly spineless complacent non-actions that exist in each and every one of us, all the time.

    * Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do. …

    * To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth. …

  21. I believe that by bringing the first argument to the court, they have proved intent. So basically point number one invalidates point number 3. It's interesting, what do you think?

  22. Wow, I never thought I'd see the day where someone tried to defend an accusation with justification of that accusation.

    Israel is supposed to say it's not genocide, not the reasons it's committing it!

  23. Do Brasil, minha solidariedade ao sofrido povo palestino. Se esse tribunal penal internacional não condenar o estado assassino de Israel…diante de tantas atrocidades cometidas. Pode fechar este órgão pela inutilidade, pois terá agido por pressão política

  24. I would have liked Marwans analysis to have been longer. He was just getting worked up when you cut him off again. Cant you just give him another minute to finish. I agree, their arguments were weak.

    I found both initial speakers irritating and boring. I watched the first part of this live last night, the most pathetic arguments I have ever heard. The second speaker just bored everyone to sleep. His monotone delivery with the occasional attempt at poetically singing his tribute to Israel fell on very bored ears whilst shuffling around his paperwork and chocking on his own words.

  25. Everyone who believes in humanity needs to know that their efforts are not insignificant, no matter how insignificant they may seem to be. There will be many failures, many disappointments, many losses but all those tiny efforts must still be made. Something as simple as learning about Palestine is a worthwhile effort. The US-Israeli leaders and commanders try to demotivate those behind such efforts because they know how big of an impact all those tiny efforts are going to have. It has been over 75 years, people from multiple generations have come and gone yet their tiny efforts are the reason why the resistance is more effective on so many fronts than ever before.

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