ATF Firearms Case Update

25 thoughts on “ATF Firearms Case Update”

1. Thanks, Good Honorable Lawyers !
   "Reasoning/1A, although, is coming to an abrupt close…

2. ATF = Fkn Commie Pukes !

3. Who voted for those fools to regulate anything?

4. If it's a three-letter government agency, the globalist Demonic Democrat Biden administration has weaponized it against Americans. They are coming for all of our rights. Best stock up!

5. The atf is literally forcing our guns away little by little

6. There is no exeption in the 2md amendment saying ex-cons are exepted from "the people". Thus, after any sentence ,parol is served there rights should be restored.

7. States need to create their own Armorys for the specific roll of INTRASTATE commerce and removing the FedGov completely by not using "interstate" commerce.
   FedGov gas zero say of what a state does and allows inside their own states.
   A state can say an automatic weapon made in the state and for inside the state alone is that states business and bypasses any and all FedGov bureaucracy

8. ATF needs to be disbanded. They are nothing more than a domestic terrorist.

9. When an unconstitutional bureaucracy can ignore law and do as they please unlawfully there a serious problem.

10. Damn government out of control. We need to get it back get rid of the ATF and most of the three agencies

11. If having a conviction expunged doesn't restore rights that were lost as a result of the conviction.Then what is the point of exponging it

12. This is apparently apart from the murder in Arkansas of the airport manager in the unwarranted house raid by ATF.

13. The wonderful Federal Government makes rules that serve no purpose other than put peasant in prison for things that are not real crimes.

14. This is a problem with three letter agencies. De fund them all

15. Jackboots

16. When are you going to go after Whitmer for passing laws requiring 2A rights to be approved by a sherif before purchase, bullshit red flag laws, and UMich being able to effectively ban all firearms in Ann Arbor

17. Let me understand this as a foreigner.
    The ATF, THE government agency created to ensure that undesirables can not gain access to (killing machines) firearms, banned several people from obtaining firearms (I'm assuming (hoping) after multiple checks that included psychological evaluations), were then sued by a 2nd amendment rights group to force the ATF to remove the ban.

    Will this 2nd amendment group sign sworn affidavits, stating they, themselves, will surrender to the authorities for prosecution if ANY of these undesirables go on a killing spree?
    I. FCUKING. DOUBT. IT!

18. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

19. Well we are not the legal name that's is vitals statistics Creation we are living souls that is the highest power of life 💝

20. "Restore" rights…. LoL

21. I’m from Missouri and have an expungement they aren’t honoring. I would appreciate any advice on the matter

22. Communists are running the government people vote accordingly

23. Let's do a reality check here. A "collection" is comprised of "onesy" ownership of a variety of calibers and makes and models. They are usually kept for a period of time until either someone figures out they are qrap and no longer wants them (who wants a firearm that jams or has some other chronic problem – or the caliber or function of the gun is too extreme to be handled by the collector – for example owning a .45 or .50 caliber handgun you don't have the hand strength to control and that is painful to fire) and the collector tries to get rid of it without taking a bath. The intention of making a "profit" is a pipe dream. If you sell a firearm through an auction or consignment agreement, the fees are going to take 20-30% of the sale price. Lets factor in if a firearm is "used" and condition becomes an issue (a fairly subjective issue at that) the firearm is further devalued from what the collector paid for it. If you are an average consumer and make all your purchases at full retail YOU CAN NEVER EXPECT TO PROFIT FROM THAT POINT FORWARD. The glut of everyday modern firearms and their availability through so many sources, make profitability literally impossible. The exception here are "antique" firearms. Firearms manufactured before 1898 are not subject to any of the modern gun law regulations and rules promulgated by the ATF and DOJ.

    The way a "collector" of these class of firearm make a profit is they find someone who doesn't know what they have and buy it "on the cheap" and then turn around and sell it to a knowledgeable collector for its real value. Collector to collector sales are governed by perceptions of condition and desirability. All very subjective and a matter of opinion. Dealers who are skilled in the market and are in the loop about other collectors looking for certain things and have the ability to find those "in the wild", can make a profit. But again none of that is regulated by laws and usually this class of firearms by a collector is to look at and not shoot. So they pose no threat to public safety (which is the underlying theory/excuse of all regulatory efforts)

    With modern firearms, the ONLY way I can see a profitability motive is you have the ability to make bulk purchases of new firearms at wholesale and then turn around and sell them at retail without having to resort to selling through an auction or dealer who will take fees. The margins on wholesale-retail sales are very thin and are quickly eaten up by middleman fees. Making a profitability motive a non starter.

    Bottom line is COLLECTING MODERN FIREARMS COMES AT A COST – NOT A PROFIT!

    It appears the ATF is attempting to word slice, obfuscate and wordsmith the 2nd Amendment in order to gain control and make an end run on the Constitution. Cause it doesn't bear out in reality.

24. So, they are breaking the law for everyone to make things right.

25. This should scare anyone who values their rights as an American. Expungement is often the only way to get any normalcy after legal trouble (notice I am not using the word conviction because most people do not get a trial and are punished for doing so).

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